Put Up Or Shut Up!

Dear. Mr. Heath
It appears to me from your last couple of posts that you are just trolling this topic to get it closed....
You constantly make egotistical and negative remarks to push people's self control...
Maybe this is all in effort of censoring the thread to hide the embarrassing statements people have said about you.
 
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Dear. Mr. Heath
It appears to me from your last couple of posts that you are just trolling this topic to get it closed....

On the contrary, I have posted just above this post what everyone has been begging for....once again. Sooner or later I will run out of trees to post and then I am sure that the battle cry will be that I don't have enough trees, lol.

I have only responded to posts by others directed at me here. Hardly trolling. Please post your trees and we can all stay on topic. Even my first post was in response to Irene's words directed at me personally, I misunderstood the intent, but it was still a response, never-the-less.



Will
 
More for the hungry...all needing time and work.

Wild Grape
Potenella
privet
juniper
yew
 
A few more for tonight...

White Cedar
one of many mugos
other side of same mugo
another cedar, this one being layered
collected oak
 
There is nothing like seeing Black Pines bud out or walking down the fence beds and seeing future work...


Maybe I'll post more tomorrow, maybe not, who knows....there will always be more.




Will
 
Crap and nonsense, this must be what bonsai is about.

In the beginning I was hopeful that BNut would be a home for those who were looking for something that was not available elsewhere but as usual I was sadly mistaken. Apparently it's all about crap and nonsense.

Thanks for chasing away some of the posters here that I looked forward to having discussions where I may learn something or perhaps at least share information. Thanks.

We have been reduced to a bunch of sniveling arguing children trying to one up each other with insults. Way to go. I would rather sit and wire 200 pine seedlings in the hot sun that read this crap much longer.

I suppose I can officially go back in to lurking mode as this is seriously a waste of my time. It's a damn shame there is no way I can turn off that little green indicator so people will not know I am online. Why? It's become quite embarrassing to be here and witness this crap and nonsense firsthand.

Hey BNut - can you give us a lurker button?

Just to be CRYSTAL CLEAR this is directed not at one particular person, it's directed at everybody. Grow up or don't grow up. Your actions will speak much louder than your typed words or photos.

See ya around.
 
Graydon,
you can go to your control panel and choose to be invisible, if that is what you want.
 
Be bold Graydon and show your green light proud.

This is put up or shut up.
 
Her's a few other projects
 
A few really nice trees Al, but you always have had a few worth bragging about.

Thanks for putting up, but where is the "ugliest mallsie potential piece of crap you have" as Irene put it? :D



Will
 
I do not own mallsai. Thats pretty much my whole back yard. I try to keep my back yard more of a "show place" rather than a growing ground.

I don't brag. I just post what I do, talk about it, answer questions if asked and thats pretty much it. Much the same as I have done on the forums for over ten years. Yes if provoked I can punch, and I do. The difference is my body of work is much farther along than yours. Of course I started with better material than you have. I have no ego that says I have to have made it from scratch. I know I can and I have shown it along the way on a different forum. My expertise is different than yours. Hell my growing conditions are way different than yours. I could make your ficus indistingushible in less than a year here.

I'm not in a league of those like Walter, or Colin or Nick. But then neither are you, so just be one of the guys and get the stick out of your ass.
 
I do not own mallsai. Thats pretty much my whole back yard. I try to keep my back yard more of a "show place" rather than a growing ground.

I don't brag. I just post what I do, talk about it, answer questions if asked and thats pretty much it. Much the same as I have done on the forums for over ten years. Yes if provoked I can punch, and I do. The difference is my body of work is much farther along than yours. Of course I started with better material than you have. I have no ego that says I have to have made it from scratch. I know I can and I have shown it along the way on a different forum. My expertise is different than yours. Hell my growing conditions are way different than yours. I could make your ficus indistingushible in less than a year here.

I'm not in a league of those like Walter, or Colin or Nick. But then neither are you, so just be one of the guys and get the stick out of your ass.

Al,

As usual, your post is insulting and pointless, you do brag, your expertise is different from mine, your trees are more advanced, all this is fact. But none of it has a damn thing to do with what I accomplish in the community, this is what you are always trying to tear down, this is what you are always attacking.....the story never changes...I am not qualified to write, I have no trees, my trees ain't good enough, I have no business in AoB or KoB, I shouldn't be published, I can't determine what is world class bonsai, in short I should just set back and let people that talk a lot and do little handle these things.

The fact is that even with my trees, my growing conditions, and the stock I choose to start with, I accomplish far more than most people ever will and certainly far more than you ever have, live with it. The most I have seen you contribute to the community (besides forum posts) is a slew of editorials posted on a forum which all had the same theme that can be summed up with the following words, I, I, I, me, me, me...hell, your name in the byline isn't enough to feed your ego, you have to put it in the title too.

Might I suggest taking the log out of your own ass before worrying about the stick in mine?

I have tried burying the hatchet with you on many occasions Al, but it was pointless, but "I imagine that must be real painful for you considering you don't know your arse from a hole in the ground. (Think about it.)" (Line used on me by Carl Bergstrom once in a debate about pot prices, we have since become friends and founded AoB together)

Debating with you is pointless, as much as I have enjoyed seeing you stumble over yourself like a keystone cop in a mad rush to dive in whenever a Will bash starts , it honestly is a waste of my time. I learn nothing from it and it only serves to take my attention away from what's really important, growing trees and contributing to the growth of the art.


Oh, and it's "indistinguishable" Al.




Will
 
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Wrong......... I can just see all this unfolding in years ahead when young people will look back on this time and shake their weary heads at the era of Will Heath and reflect. Will what you said/wrote in your reply to Al was quite rude and leaves us in no doubt that you can't control your vitriol. I suggest that you should take time out, take a break away from bonsainut and collect your thoughts.
What is actually happening here is that the people here are laughing and getting huge entertainment value at your expense. Imagine this site without you, it would carry on as normal and with less bandwidth that is afforded at the moment, and in a more conducive atmosphere. Those who were reticent to post may just open up and get back to the objective this site set out to achieve .... Bonsai and more bonsai.

Kindest Regards Ash
 
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The shohins and their bench area are looking cool Al. Keep up the good work. I used to hate that pine tree trident, the last 2 pics have sharply changed my mind.



Hmmm, Hi Will. Nice list. Happy I could be included into such a skilled and passionate group of bonsai men. No need to point out any grammer errors for my post.
 
As I have said the yard is a mess at the moment. It is winter and we have been getting plenty of rain so I only go down to look at this mess in the shade house after a couple of days or so of sun.
Others I have up on a temp bench near the house.
Oh and the wood turned up for my new bench area today so it won't be long :)
 
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Way to ge Bretts! Thanks for posting your trees, I like the first one, I think Nick lenz would have a ball with that.


Will
 
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His analogy was quite simple it keeps the traffic flowing and the sponsors love that.

Tell your friend that this is a free site and I have no sponsors. There is no grand commercial conspiracy here - it is just cash out of my back pocket. :)

Likewise I get complaints all the time about how I edit or delete posts. I think you would all find it amusing how sometimes I have been blamed by BOTH sides of an argument for taking the other's side :) Generally what I try to do is edit down to interesting bonsai content. My definition of "interesting" content is pretty broad. I do not try to edit out arguments unless it starts to sound like a tit for tat ego battle, or nothing more than personal attacks.

Speaking of which, this thread has devolved almost past the point of saving. Please stay on subject (aka "put up or shut up" thread subject) or I'll have to close the thread.
 
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